THE NEW COMMUNITY FORMAT - BETA IS NOT BETTER!  

spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
29796 posts
11/28/2021 5:45 am
THE NEW COMMUNITY FORMAT - BETA IS NOT BETTER!



I have tried the new beta Community format of this site on several occasions since it was recently re-launched. My view is that it is an unmitigated disaster. At a stroke, it has smashed a virtual community into smithereens. In no way does the new format promote a sense of community in both blogland and groupland. In fact, it does the exact opposite; it has destroyed the existing, albeit far from perfect, sense of community.

The new format is slightly better than the new format that was foisted on us a few months back, but only very marginally better. The site had to quickly do a reverse-ferret with that launch. The new format is still one big car crash! I realise change, especially radical change, often meets resistance. But this change stops me doing what I normally do in blogland.

Normally I look at and reply to new comments to my blog posts, then I look at replies to my comments on other blog posts, and finally I look at and comment on posts of bloggers I follow. If I have time I may look at recent posts of other bloggers or look at the list of new bloggers. And, a few times a week, I will write a new blog post. With the new format, I cannot easily do what I normally do.

Below are 15 examples of how my normal blogland routines are disrupted:
- new comments to my blog posts are not easy to find
- comments to some of my blog posts have disappeared
- my replies to comments posted on my blog posts have vanished
- many images uploaded with blog posts do not appear
- the description of my blog has been reduced to a few lines
- alerts take me back to things that happened a long time ago
- each of my saved posts are listed twice
- my sticky blog post for members to contact me has vanished
- new posts of my followed bloggers can only be found by searching each of their blogs
- the opening page of blogland is just a list of random blog posts
- recent blog posts cannot be found
- new bloggers cannot be easily found
- so-called top bloggers cannot be easily found (some may say this is a plus point!)
- blocked members are now unblocked
- and incredibly, the apostrophe is still mangled

As for groups, the new format has just made moderating or participating in groups a fruitless mission. Groups are just a footnote to the community.

The site has just atomised our blogland community. The new format needs at least an opening generic page like we have now. Otherwise, we will just be ships in the night occasionally bumping each other!


Have you looked at the new Community?
If so, what do you think of the new beta format?
Is it better or worse than the old format?


It is now clear why the site has not fixed the increasing glitches, such as the disappearing images, the stolen little words, the pilfered letters, the mangled apostrophe and the unrecognised bullet points. It decided long ago that these glitches were not worth fixing by updating its codes because it was going to roll out the new format.

After the site imposed the new format on us a few months back, I decided not to renew my gold membership and to lapse into standard membership until the site settled on its new format. Being a standard member meant I could still blog and still participate in groups even if I could no longer read or send mail.

Given that the site has not listened to its members or, if it has listened, it has decided to do its own thing in rolling out this new format, I may not even bother being a standard member.




spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
11/28/2021 5:46 am

When the new format was initially rolled out this summer, I blogged about this fiasco - see BLOGLAND CHAOS. I included some correspondence I had with Andrew Conru, the founder of this site. I’m going to get back to him. That’ll sort this mess out, not!


CleavageFan4U 65M  
69374 posts
11/28/2021 8:47 am

I took a brief look the other day - my head still hurts.

I didn't spend nearly as long as you did apparently, but saw a few of the same things you note. WTF, if this comes to pass (in anything NEAR what I saw) it will surely be the end of my time here!!

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Tmptrzz 59F  
107038 posts
11/28/2021 10:41 am

Well said my friend, I did look at it the other day and thought what the HELL!!! It is definitely not for me. So thank you for breaking it all down for us as it's just to much of a Nightmare for this blogger and I will NOT be using it!!

Have you looked at the new Community? I did and I am a big NO!!

If so, what do you think of the new beta format?..Doesn't make a whole lot of sense and
is quit confusing.

Is it better or worse than the old format? I like the old Format and will be sticking with that for now. I am hoping I don't loose any of my followers, and I sure don't want to be lost on the blogs that I follow as well..

I hope you enjoy a relaxing Sunday..

Seduce the mind and see what a wonderful adventure the body will take you on..


crosstraining 69T  
8367 posts
11/28/2021 12:16 pm

I clicked on it , when it said log in , I clicked back , XOXO


smartasswoman 64F  
35813 posts
11/28/2021 12:25 pm

I missed the initial rollout entirely and have been afraid to peek at the new beta version. Sounds horrible! But it’s kind of hilarious that the apostrophes are still broken on it.


foz19504 67M
1657 posts
11/28/2021 12:39 pm

I have looked at the beta community, and it is a DISASTER. I think they want more bloggers to leave the site.


jajo696 67F
4287 posts
11/28/2021 1:07 pm

Ugh is all i can say. I must decide for my self if its even worth trying to navigate. At the present time , im not up for this challenge. Ugh ~


secret_lade 48F
9227 posts
11/28/2021 4:32 pm

I have not looked at the Beta Community, nor do I have an interest in doing so. If and when the time comes that they decide to switch things up and I no longer have the ability to easily frequent my favorite blogs and leave comments that will be read and responded to, I will stop being here. I chose not to be a gold member here, this time around, because IM was so terrible and there were so many issues and glitches.


lonlyforlove2 79M  
32704 posts
11/28/2021 6:07 pm

I have honestly tried to use. I AGREE IT IS NOT WHAT WE NEED OR ARE LOOKING FOR. I have found that I can make it lock up. Not sure it is the site of my computer confused by all the things I want to see and can't find.. It will not work until all do link their normal profiles to the new community. Some (a very few) have linked and those seem to work normal, but without a master page as we have now it is not going to be a very user-friendly program..

What is the definition of beta version?
Definition of: Beta version[I/] A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to try under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing inhouse and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as a result.

So we get a second-hand version of the program ???[B/]

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lok4fun500 M
51906 posts
11/28/2021 7:35 pm

NO I don't want to look....I have enough problems with the site as it is.


lok4fun500 M
51906 posts
11/28/2021 7:37 pm

    Quoting secret_lade:
    I have not looked at the Beta Community, nor do I have an interest in doing so. If and when the time comes that they decide to switch things up and I no longer have the ability to easily frequent my favorite blogs and leave comments that will be read and responded to, I will stop being here. I chose not to be a gold member here, this time around, because IM was so terrible and there were so many issues and glitches.
Here here! I hear you!


author51 59F  
130010 posts
11/28/2021 10:48 pm

I think you already know my feelings on this subject and before they finalize it, they need to read and listen to what their members concerns and complaints are about the new format Hun.xoxo


PonyGirl1965 56F
22090 posts
11/29/2021 1:24 am

Have you looked at the new Community?
Nope. I have enough to juggle this holiday season. I'm refusing to let their chaos mess with my head, LOL.


pal334 68M  
45821 posts
11/29/2021 5:55 am

I see your post re inforced my ideas. The site is so weird in concept, I stay away from anything voluntary. You saved many of us wimps with your efforts

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BeccaLuvs 59F
20895 posts
11/29/2021 6:25 am

Have been wondering about that Spunky, but have been hesitant to click on it, and now after reading what you've said, guess I'll carry on hesitating! In case I get curious though, just have to ask you, if you click on it, can you leave - you're not stuck with it? Anyway, have a great week!

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scoupe42 59M  

11/29/2021 6:55 am

My friend, you always have facts and very informative, thanks for sharing info!


citizen4722 64M  
74582 posts
11/29/2021 12:16 pm

I did have a brief look at the new community format. I couldn't get my head around it to be honest.


Leegs2012 49M
96134 posts
11/30/2021 10:37 am

I like the old format better. I'm with you


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
11/30/2021 1:35 pm

I think a lot of established bloggers feel the way you do. I just don't understand why the site is doing this. It's calculating that it'll attract more members into the so-called Community than will leave it.


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
11/30/2021 2:52 pm

    Quoting Tmptrzz:
    Well said my friend, I did look at it the other day and thought what the HELL!!! It is definitely not for me. So thank you for breaking it all down for us as it's just to much of a Nightmare for this blogger and I will NOT be using it!!

    Have you looked at the new Community? I did and I am a big NO!!

    If so, what do you think of the new beta format?..Doesn't make a whole lot of sense and
    is quit confusing.

    Is it better or worse than the old format? I like the old Format and will be sticking with that for now. I am hoping I don't loose any of my followers, and I sure don't want to be lost on the blogs that I follow as well..

    I hope you enjoy a relaxing Sunday..
Let's stop this new format. Together we can do this!


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
11/30/2021 2:56 pm

    Quoting crosstraining:
    I clicked on it , when it said log in , I clicked back , XOXO
I clicked onto the new format and, like you, I clicked back. But I clicked on back to the new format only to see the same pile of shite!


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
11/30/2021 3:00 pm

    Quoting smartasswoman:
    I missed the initial rollout entirely and have been afraid to peek at the new beta version. Sounds horrible! But it’s kind of hilarious that the apostrophes are still broken on it.
The iniitial rollout was a head-fuck, and the new rollout is still a head-fuck. The apostrophe will always broken on this site, further proof it's dead even if alive in this comment to your reply!


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
11/30/2021 3:19 pm

    Quoting foz19504:
    I have looked at the beta community, and it is a DISASTER. I think they want more bloggers to leave the site.
I totally agree. But I can't understand why they want bloogers, particularly, paying bloggers, to leave the site.
Thanks for stopping by.


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
11/30/2021 3:22 pm

    Quoting jajo696:
    Ugh is all i can say. I must decide for my self if its even worth trying to navigate. At the present time , im not up for this challenge. Ugh ~
Ugh is the good description for the new format. I just can't understand why the site wants to make this change to alienate most of people in blogland!


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
11/30/2021 3:23 pm

    Quoting secret_lade:
    I have not looked at the Beta Community, nor do I have an interest in doing so. If and when the time comes that they decide to switch things up and I no longer have the ability to easily frequent my favorite blogs and leave comments that will be read and responded to, I will stop being here. I chose not to be a gold member here, this time around, because IM was so terrible and there were so many issues and glitches.
I can see where you're coming from, but this site doesn't see things that way!


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
11/30/2021 3:27 pm

    Quoting lonlyforlove2:
    I have honestly tried to use. I AGREE IT IS NOT WHAT WE NEED OR ARE LOOKING FOR. I have found that I can make it lock up. Not sure it is the site of my computer confused by all the things I want to see and can't find.. It will not work until all do link their normal profiles to the new community. Some (a very few) have linked and those seem to work normal, but without a master page as we have now it is not going to be a very user-friendly program..

    What is the definition of beta version?
    Definition of: Beta version[I/] A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to try under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing inhouse and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as a result.

    So we get a second-hand version of the program ???[B/]
I just don't understand why the site is looking to change blogland; for them. it's a sleepy backwater. But we do need that master page!
And many thanks for informing us that beta leads to the alpha format It gives me hope!


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
11/30/2021 3:29 pm

    Quoting lok4fun500:
    NO I don't want to look....I have enough problems with the site as it is.
Please have a look at the future. I don't even think your roaming fly will survive!


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
12/1/2021 9:41 am

It looks as if many bloggers will stop blogging if this new format is rolled out.


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
12/1/2021 9:43 am

    Quoting author51:
    I think you already know my feelings on this subject and before they finalize it, they need to read and listen to what their members concerns and complaints are about the new format Hun.xoxo
The site's track record of listening to its members is unfortunately dismal.


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
12/1/2021 9:44 am

    Quoting PonyGirl1965:
    Have you looked at the new Community?
    Nope. I have enough to juggle this holiday season. I'm refusing to let their chaos mess with my head, LOL.
You aren't missing anything good by not looking at the new format!


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
12/1/2021 9:45 am

    Quoting pal334:
    I see your post re inforced my ideas. The site is so weird in concept, I stay away from anything voluntary. You saved many of us wimps with your efforts
This site's relations with its members is appalling. It is supposed to be a business which means listening to its customers.


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
12/1/2021 9:53 am

    Quoting BeccaLuvs:
    Have been wondering about that Spunky, but have been hesitant to click on it, and now after reading what you've said, guess I'll carry on hesitating! In case I get curious though, just have to ask you, if you click on it, can you leave - you're not stuck with it? Anyway, have a great week!
I would keep on hesitating. But if you do click on it you can leave the hellhole and return to the old format.


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
12/1/2021 9:53 am

    Quoting scoupe42:
    My friend, you always have facts and very informative, thanks for sharing info!
I just did a test run of the new format and put the facts in the public domain!


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
12/1/2021 9:55 am

    Quoting citizen4722:
    I did have a brief look at the new community format. I couldn't get my head around it to be honest.
The new format is not easy at all to navigate and breaks the three-clicks rule, if it takes three or more clicks to find something, people don't bother trying to find it!


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
12/1/2021 9:59 am

    Quoting Leegs2012:
    I like the old format better. I'm with you
The old format needs fixing but even with its many glitches it's far superior to the new format. It beggars belief how the site can screw things up so badly ... but having seen how it operates perhaps we shouldn't expect anything else!


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
12/1/2021 10:03 am

    Quoting  :

I'm pleased my experience with the new format is similar to your experience who is IT-savvy.
When I first entered the new format, I thought it was my lack of IT skills that was the problem. But having entered the new format on several occasions trying to do what I normally do in blogland, I soon realised it's the site messing things up ... again!


Andrew 54M  
1250 posts
12/4/2021 11:28 am

Thanks for the feedback! I'll go through the following point by point... then go through the posts you sent and comment there too.

Below are 15 examples of how my normal blogland routines are disrupted:
- new comments to my blog posts are not easy to find

A: Once we move to the new code, every time someone comments on a post or replies to a comment (for both blogs and groups), it will be listed on the "Alerts" page so you can see them all in one place. During the "beta", they do not show up there yet as it's a new feature.

- comments to some of my blog posts have disappeared

A: One of the blog migration scripts wasn't running for a week... blogs/comments are there again. It's a bit hard to keep the two databases in sync but I can update any missed ones later.

- my replies to comments posted on my blog posts have vanished

A: Please check again now that the last week data has been copied.

- many images uploaded with blog posts do not appear

A: I'm investigating this one today... I think it's related to the last week sync issue.

- the description of my blog has been reduced to a few lines

A: Yes, I'm going to work on this... I was trying to make it do a summary with a link to "view all" but since we have so many customization tags, it's hard to do. The challenge is on mobile where a long description means people have to scroll through it to see the posts.

- alerts take me back to things that happened a long time ago

A: yep, the alerts will show only new events that happen in the new community... my guess if you have some alerts, they're from August when we were testing things.

- each of my saved posts are listed twice

A: I'll have to check this one on your account as I see them only once.

- my sticky blog post for members to contact me has vanished

A: I'll check this one later. The new code also only has sticky on/off and not a sort order for them. It's on the to-do list but we also want to keep things simple.

- new posts of my followed bloggers can only be found by searching each of their blogs

A: Assuming you're using a computer (not phone), you can see "new posts of followed bloggers" by clicking the "Blogs" button on the left sidebar, then "Followed" button on the upper-right corner of the page.

- the opening page of blogland is just a list of random blog posts

A: It currently shows the newest blogs (note again, the last week's blogs were missing).

- recent blog posts cannot be found

A: yes, they're there now.

- new bloggers cannot be easily found

A: click "Blogs" in left sidebar, then "New" button at the top. However, since most new bloggers

- so-called top bloggers cannot be easily found (some may say this is a plus point!)

A: yeah... we're going to get rid of the "contest" posts. If you go to /community/members you can see some leaderboards and sorts but it's kind of hidden on purpose until we see if it's useful.

- blocked members are now unblocked

A: Aha... I see what happened here. I will update it today.

- and incredibly, the apostrophe is still mangled

A: yeah... I worked on this a bit last week. The problem is the old/current blog database mangles apostrophe's and so only new posts will not have that problem. It's actually worse for non-English posts. The new blogs has a way to fix apostrophes in old posts for English.


spunkycumfun 62M/67F  
41171 posts
12/4/2021 3:01 pm

    Quoting Andrew:
    Thanks for the feedback! I'll go through the following point by point... then go through the posts you sent and comment there too.

    Below are 15 examples of how my normal blogland routines are disrupted:
    - new comments to my blog posts are not easy to find

    A: Once we move to the new code, every time someone comments on a post or replies to a comment (for both blogs and groups), it will be listed on the "Alerts" page so you can see them all in one place. During the "beta", they do not show up there yet as it's a new feature.

    - comments to some of my blog posts have disappeared

    A: One of the blog migration scripts wasn't running for a week... blogs/comments are there again. It's a bit hard to keep the two databases in sync but I can update any missed ones later.

    - my replies to comments posted on my blog posts have vanished

    A: Please check again now that the last week data has been copied.

    - many images uploaded with blog posts do not appear

    A: I'm investigating this one today... I think it's related to the last week sync issue.

    - the description of my blog has been reduced to a few lines

    A: Yes, I'm going to work on this... I was trying to make it do a summary with a link to "view all" but since we have so many customization tags, it's hard to do. The challenge is on mobile where a long description means people have to scroll through it to see the posts.

    - alerts take me back to things that happened a long time ago

    A: yep, the alerts will show only new events that happen in the new community... my guess if you have some alerts, they're from August when we were testing things.

    - each of my saved posts are listed twice

    A: I'll have to check this one on your account as I see them only once.

    - my sticky blog post for members to contact me has vanished

    A: I'll check this one later. The new code also only has sticky on/off and not a sort order for them. It's on the to-do list but we also want to keep things simple.

    - new posts of my followed bloggers can only be found by searching each of their blogs

    A: Assuming you're using a computer (not phone), you can see "new posts of followed bloggers" by clicking the "Blogs" button on the left sidebar, then "Followed" button on the upper-right corner of the page.

    - the opening page of blogland is just a list of random blog posts

    A: It currently shows the newest blogs (note again, the last week's blogs were missing).

    - recent blog posts cannot be found

    A: yes, they're there now.

    - new bloggers cannot be easily found

    A: click "Blogs" in left sidebar, then "New" button at the top. However, since most new bloggers

    - so-called top bloggers cannot be easily found (some may say this is a plus point!)

    A: yeah... we're going to get rid of the "contest" posts. If you go to /community/members you can see some leaderboards and sorts but it's kind of hidden on purpose until we see if it's useful.

    - blocked members are now unblocked

    A: Aha... I see what happened here. I will update it today.

    - and incredibly, the apostrophe is still mangled

    A: yeah... I worked on this a bit last week. The problem is the old/current blog database mangles apostrophe's and so only new posts will not have that problem. It's actually worse for non-English posts. The new blogs has a way to fix apostrophes in old posts for English.
Thanks for taking on board all this. Key is geting the issues fixed before rolling out.


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